Polkadot Watchdogs Governance Monthly Incentive Referendum #1 - VOTE NAY

Rejected

UPDATE #3:

https://x.com/giottodf/status/1748779552757756060?s=20

UPDATE #2:

  1. Shawn Tabrizi criticism: https://twitter.com/shawntabrizi/status/1748547624075235460
  2. My response: https://x.com/giottodf/status/1748616692379308220?s=20

UPDATE: A lot of people are commenting negatively about this proposal both on Polkassembly and Twitter. It seems the main reason for this is because of a deep misunderstanding of the purpose of this referendum. I just finished a Twitter spaces with 300 people asking questions and at the end of the spaces not a single person was against the proposal. So if you're against the proposal I invite you to listen to the recording it will most likely change your mind:

https://x.com/giottodf/status/1748329552525369385?s=20

The idea is to incentivize governance participation to protect the treasury and in general the network from potential malicious attacks. There is no difference between rewarding governance participation and rewarding validators. It's exactly the same thing. If you think it's different please listen to the recorded Twitter spaces.


The purpose of this referendum is very simple: If you vote yes and the referendum passes you will get some free DOTs. The more DOTs you contribute, and with more conviction — the bigger will be the reward, linearly pro-rated.

This referendum is asking for 100k DOT to the treasury, if the referendum passes all the people that voted yes will share the 100k DOT.

The way it is going to be calculated is that we are going to take the sum of all the yes votes multiplied by the conviction which will result in the effective voting power. The 100k DOT will be shared pro rata based on the amount of YES voting power contributed by each voter. If the referendum passes at the end of the referendum you will receive your reward in DOT directly on your address.

The purpose of this referendum is to incentivize people to participate in governance:

However this does NOT mean that you have to vote on ANY OTHER referendum besides this referendum to get the reward. We DO NOT want people to vote in a stupid way on other referendums just to get a reward. You only have to vote on THIS REFERENDUM to get your reward. The purpose of this referendum is to have people “READY TO VOTE” and NOT to “FORCE THEM TO VOTE”. Of course after you vote in favor or against this referendum since anyway your DOTs will be locked according to your conviction then you have no cost opportunity in voting for other referendums IF YOU WANT so but you have ABSOLUTELY NO OBLIGATION TO DO IT and this will NOT AFFECT YOUR REWARD IN ANY WAY.

TLDR:

  • If you want to earn your share of the 100K DOT vote YES
  • If you are an idealist and you think that participation in governance should not be rewarded vote NO

 

If you want Polkadot to thrive and governance to become more democratic please tell all your friends about this, invite them to force their custodians to support voting, withdraw from exchanges and/or pressure exchanges to support voting

If you want more details about the deep implications of this concept click the following 3 links in order:

  1. https://x.com/giottodf/status/1747244551931125816?s=20
  2. https://x.com/giottodf/status/1747504772561748182?s=20
  3. https://x.com/giottodf/status/1747649800227438732?s=20

The recipient of this payment is a multi-sig (5 of 8) managed by the following people:

Giotto TheeWeb3Patriot Cris Nguyen Dakota Strindbergman Sourabh Niyogi Jay Chrawnna LUI5

Our technical partner is Kirill (Azymologist) ex head of security of Parity. His company will be taking 5% commission in order to manage the payment to all the recipients.

If someone really doesn't like the idea they can propose referendum canceler or referendum killer. That just moves the game on a different arena. In case this happens if you like the idea you should vote NO to referendum canceler / killer and if you don't like the idea then you should vote YES

 

 

You can calculate that the multistig address is calculated correctly by using the following addresses [5/8]:

13HNWD2bmRumQBeZJioWEC94W2LXE2ARy8u1YQF93joTjWuY @InvArchitect 1EpEiYpWRAWmte4oPLtR5B1TZFxcBShBdjK4X9wWnq2KfLK @giottodf 121Rs6fKm8nguHnvPfG1Cq3ctFuNAVZGRmghwkJwHpKxKjbx @sourabhniyogi 13Ec62Cvw9jmPxA23EidSwASPs9X2Vohqv9RCogCfDvXC4c8 @crisng999 138Xe8CbBq1PwbCYmFTrsBpKc8HzymbGsi9K8bQLjXxCogV9 @TheeWeb3Patriot 14zsSB1tbxaeXBNPTBJCKgWxu2ZSMc6FpGZrXdJFmoUpZX8X @Strindbergman 12WWjrZGuVxyk5AyFeDGaN45J1FJ6MesXRxhmY41rhKxL961 @JayChrawnna 12pUXtKj7jD3yaxnK6TWKBsxS1JpLUceBKZKMPMH6RiZvjr4 @Luis_1x

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[Deleted Account]

This is starting to be ridiculous... One man show aka Open Giotto....
We really gonna let this unethical whale control whole Polkadot eco ? Someone who was never been seen in last 3 years comes with his bags and tell us whats right or wrong :)

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When he says "I wanna tip him" he means to take out from the trasury and tip ofc he does not mean he will spend his own bags to provide the tip.

Slashing his account now seems as realistic option.

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[Deleted Account]

@jonas @giottodf

the assumption that among many factors, one reason for low participation in opengov is that many token holders either don’t know how to vote or have their DOTs in CEXs that prevent voting. Now, the question is how we can engage these people. The goal is to incentivize them to join, and then encourage them to stay.

Large accounts don't vote because of apathy, opportunity cost (better things to do) and importantly legal jeopardy - a subject people rarely seem to discuss or even have basic awareness of.

I have mentioned this many times before... and have discussed with W3F lawyers.

I also mentioned recently to Giotto who seems unconcerned about the potential issues that lie down the road due to the Polkadot/Kusama treasuries existing as unincorporated associations - leaving holders, large voters and proposers vulnerable in the absence of a legal wrapper.

It seems fairly inevitable we will see DAO lawsuits proliferate in 2024/5.

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[Deleted Account]

Dear All,

This proposal, as other proposal at 700k dot for Ded, and some others, show a current direction of governance than I'm really against.

We need to think to reduce the treasury size, to reduce the greedy incentive of them.

This type of proposal reduce the current quality of proposal and with aye will motivate greedy/scam people to came to extract as much as possible value of it.

We can reduce treasury size, to show a limit, than money aren't infinite, to motivate people to aye better quality of proposal due to the limite quantity of treasury.

And to stop to lose time of this type of proposal.
We have something else to do on the ecosystem/life.

Best Regards,

No Risk No Fun

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[Deleted Account]

We have voted NAY.

DOT holders are already incentivized to participate in governance to ensure the long-term health and value of the network.

We doubt the effectiveness of 431 and see the cost as too high for an unproven/unresearched method.

The proposal is an experiment and better suited for Kusama. Also, we think that 5'000 DOT (ca. $34'000) commission for the technical execution is far too much.

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[Deleted Account]

if you change it to burn 100k dot, I might vote aye(you can even increase the amount). Treasury needs to burn dot anyways, and then you don't have to pay anyone 5%.

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